Comments on: MENS Society at British universities…. http://www.whyboysfail.com/2009/11/23/mens-society-at-british-universities/ Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:24:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Marc http://www.whyboysfail.com/2009/11/23/mens-society-at-british-universities/#comment-13179 Marc Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:47:24 +0000 http://www.whyboysfail.com/?p=1214#comment-13179 Frankly, there is an opportunity for a LOT of nit-picking here! There is an opportunity to attack those who we feel "victimized by". This is all a conversation that debating about will not resolve! MEN and WOMEN both need these groups. Neither gender should have dominance. And it is only that by standing in EQUALITY, that we can achieve what we need. Both are guilty of trying to "outdo the other". There is a danger on both sides that we try to attack the other because we feel victimized. Everyone, we have a choice: we can either stand in complete equality for both sexes (recognizing and celebrating differences); or we can stand in "men have been getting victimized by feminists for so long, it's time we stood up to their BS and took control", or even "men have been dominating women for too long, it's time we give them a taste of their own medicine". Believe me, depending on what side of bed I wake up on in the morning, I can waver between either of those opinions - neither are helpful! This article hit such a nerve for some. It is time men formed to stand for INTEGRITY. It is time they stood for EQUALITY. I say men, because well, I'm a man. I would invite women to do the same. We have an opportunity to WORK TOGETHER. All this victimized talk on both sides, it has neither move from their position. Does it? Really? Apart from making ourselves feel "Right!". Let's move forward and recognize that whatever patriarchal society we live in is unhealthy for both MEN AND WOMEN! Time to celebrate our differences... Marc Frankly, there is an opportunity for a LOT of nit-picking here! There is an opportunity to attack those who we feel “victimized by”. This is all a conversation that debating about will not resolve!

MEN and WOMEN both need these groups. Neither gender should have dominance. And it is only that by standing in EQUALITY, that we can achieve what we need. Both are guilty of trying to “outdo the other”. There is a danger on both sides that we try to attack the other because we feel victimized.

Everyone, we have a choice: we can either stand in complete equality for both sexes (recognizing and celebrating differences); or we can stand in “men have been getting victimized by feminists for so long, it’s time we stood up to their BS and took control”, or even “men have been dominating women for too long, it’s time we give them a taste of their own medicine”. Believe me, depending on what side of bed I wake up on in the morning, I can waver between either of those opinions - neither are helpful!

This article hit such a nerve for some. It is time men formed to stand for INTEGRITY. It is time they stood for EQUALITY. I say men, because well, I’m a man. I would invite women to do the same. We have an opportunity to WORK TOGETHER. All this victimized talk on both sides, it has neither move from their position. Does it? Really? Apart from making ourselves feel “Right!”.

Let’s move forward and recognize that whatever patriarchal society we live in is unhealthy for both MEN AND WOMEN! Time to celebrate our differences…
Marc

]]> By: Never you mind http://www.whyboysfail.com/2009/11/23/mens-society-at-british-universities/#comment-13111 Never you mind Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:02:13 +0000 http://www.whyboysfail.com/?p=1214#comment-13111 Ahh Kirsty what tripe you trill. "Radical" feminist or hysterical little girl? Im not sure which stereotype you aspire to, but you do a great job of embodying both. Men are an oppressed minority group within University especially Manchester! You only have to use the evidence of your own eyes to see that. And whats wrong straight pride? Homosexual people are allowed to show their joy at being gay so why not straight people? Are you so pc to deny the majority of the population the chance to glorify in their sexuality whilst a minority enjoy theirs (and block traffic into the bargain)? You are an idiot. Please stop posting your revisionist hate where sensible people can see it. Ahh Kirsty what tripe you trill. “Radical” feminist or hysterical little girl? Im not sure which stereotype you aspire to, but you do a great job of embodying both.

Men are an oppressed minority group within University especially Manchester! You only have to use the evidence of your own eyes to see that. And whats wrong straight pride? Homosexual people are allowed to show their joy at being gay so why not straight people? Are you so pc to deny the majority of the population the chance to glorify in their sexuality whilst a minority enjoy theirs (and block traffic into the bargain)?

You are an idiot. Please stop posting your revisionist hate where sensible people can see it.

]]> By: Kirstie http://www.whyboysfail.com/2009/11/23/mens-society-at-british-universities/#comment-13050 Kirstie Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:30:34 +0000 http://www.whyboysfail.com/?p=1214#comment-13050 Drinking clubs or support groups? Well that question's not too difficult to answer. The Manchester MENS Society is a bunch of loutish chauvinists who produce leaflets saying they wish to engage in "uber-manly" activities together, consistently argue that men are an oppressed minority group and have a Facebook page full of comments such as "gays r not cool" and "I FUCKING HATE THE GAYS". Their founder expressed interest in holding Straight Pride and their treasurer cites their favourite historical figure as Goebbels, one of the orchestrators of the Nazi holocaust. Honestly, only the most media savvy folks could have got themselves branded as "support groups" in the national media when everyone here on campus, knows what intimidating wannabe macho men they are. Drinking clubs or support groups? Well that question’s not too difficult to answer. The Manchester MENS Society is a bunch of loutish chauvinists who produce leaflets saying they wish to engage in “uber-manly” activities together, consistently argue that men are an oppressed minority group and have a Facebook page full of comments such as “gays r not cool” and “I FUCKING HATE THE GAYS”. Their founder expressed interest in holding Straight Pride and their treasurer cites their favourite historical figure as Goebbels, one of the orchestrators of the Nazi holocaust. Honestly, only the most media savvy folks could have got themselves branded as “support groups” in the national media when everyone here on campus, knows what intimidating wannabe macho men they are.

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